Fandom—Innocent fun or a bit creepy?

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The 1962 hit film in the United States was a release entitled The Music Man. Based on the 1957 Broadway play of the same name, the story is set in the year 1912 and relates how a con man, “Professor” Harold Hill, arrives in a rural Iowa town with the intent of scamming the local population out of its money. The fake professor’s plan is to form a band for the school kids, collect the funds for instruments and then, before the children play a single note of music, take the first available train out of town…his wallet, naturally, fat with the parent’s money.

Following the typical narrative arc of movies of that era, Professor Hill’s plans are interrupted by a love interest and various twists and turns in the plot. Hill is finally backed into a corner to show the results of his “Think System” in which the children are supposed to learn to play an instrument just by thinking about it.

In the end, even though the children sound terrible, the parents see the band members as they wish them to be—with the youngsters as accomplished musicians. The dishonest professor escapes intact, love prevails, and all ends well.

In the very last scene, a teenage girl is waiting outside the school as the band members file out the front door and onto Main Street. She too, instead of seeing the kids in their ill-fitting uniforms and who clearly can’t play, envisions what she wishes to see—a striking drum major and how, as the title song goes “Seventy-six trombones led the big parade with one hundred and ten coronets close at hand.” Although her eyes and ears tell her otherwise, her imagination sees and hears musical perfection. Music Man Last Scene

The meaning of The Music Man is pretty clear.  In order to escape our mundane lives, we often ignore reality and see our idols the way we want them to be. To flee boredom, we take flights of fancy to a place where our heroes become our friends and we inhabit their world instead of ours.

The Music Man is, of course, harmless entertainment. A feel-good early 1960s movie with an unsurprising ending. Yet when I look at modern Fandom (See Note 1) The Music Man helps in discovering the border between what is innocent fun and what is an obsession—an obsession in which we sacrifice our own personalities and subsume ourselves to the idea of a celebrity. I say “the idea of a celebrity” for we will most likely never meet, nor spend any meaningful time, with the objects of our affections—and no, greeting your hero at the airport, in a hotel lobby, or at an autograph signing doesn’t count. When you meet your celebrity hero in one of those locations, he or she will almost always prove to be unsurprisingly friendly. Remember, they are quite good at playing that role.

On my flights over the years, I have chatted with prime ministers, a queen, elite athletes, politicians, and movie actors. Yet, so what? I am quite obviously not part of their inner group and we know nothing of each other apart from having been polite to one another as I welcomed them on board. Yet all too frequently we in the general public feel certain that there is a special bond between us—something that leads us to make significant emotional investitures in them. This leads me to ask, are these investitures innocent fun or are they unhealthy for all parties—the fan and the celebrity alike?

1964 “Beatlemania” taking over the country!

To get an idea of what being a fan in 2024 means, I posed this question to the genial participants of a musical forum that I frequent. One of the respondents cut right to the chase by asking “What age group are we talking about?” I hadn’t even thought of that, but it is indeed the first consideration in teasing out various shades of Fandom. 

Every young person has idols and heroes: musicians, athletes, artists, scientists, or actors. Teenage girls, know then as “Bobby-soxers,” went wild for the singer Frank Sinatra in the 1940s and in the 1960s their children had posters of the Beatles on their bedroom walls. Young males of that era wanted to be baseball stars such as Ted Williams while their sons, 20 years later, probably wanted to be an astronaut. Heck, even Albert Einstein enjoyed an otherworldly popularity.  

In fact, a teenager is missing a lot in life if he or she does not have a role model to serve as an object of fascination and inspiration. Early life can be pretty lonely without someone to look up to. 

At some point in adolescence though, we start to lead our own lives and accumulate our own successes and failures. We have our own experiences and while we still have heroes, they are not quite as important to us and we recognize that they are just humans after all. In other words, we learn to be ourselves and not live our lives solely through others.  

Then what? If teenage Fandom is important, what about adult Fandom? Here, for better or worse, is where things get a bit more complicated. 

Please don’t think though, that being complicated automatically means something bad—it is just more nuanced. Millions of spectators have, over the years for example, attended films, concerts, and speeches and simply filed the memory away among life’s most enjoyable moments. Thousands watched the Rolling Stones and Elton John in Hyde Park in 2023 and, while obviously not my cup of tea, millions have attended a Taylor Swift concert and had nothing but fun from start to finish. 

When it comes to sports, thousands of grown men wear the jerseys of their favorite sports teams on game days and jostle their way to get a selfie with their athletic stars.  

This is the good side of Fandom, but it is unfortunately not the only one. First, I need to mention, if only in passing, the darkest side in that ugly world of stalkers. Borderline criminals, they are not true fans but deeply troubled individuals. Sadly, no modern celebrity is free from their threat.

Another facet of Fandom is that of the serious groupies. I am careful here not to be judgmental as many of them are cognizant of exactly what they are doing and that is completely their business. This is beyond my purview so I will leave the description of that lifestyle to those who were, such as Pamela Des Barres, active in that scene.

Legendary groupie Pamela Des Barres hangs out with Jimmy Page in 1969

Where Fandom becomes problematic however, is when fans blindly subjugate themselves to an unrealistic ideal of celebrity. As most of us know, if we insist on putting someone up on a pedestal, they will surely fall. Add in the factor that a great number of celebrities don’t want to be on that pedestal in the first place, and the extreme fan is left chasing the wind for the perfect celebrity is both a figment of one’s imagination and the product of a clever public relations department.

Although the 1960s television series Star Trek was not at first a commercial success, over the years it became a science-fiction juggernaut that has influenced hundreds of books and films. Recognize the phrase “Beam me up Scotty?” Certainly—just as billions around the globe do! 

As the fervor for Star Trek grew, however, conventions started to spring up where fans would hunker down in hotel convention centers on weekends and spend hours discussing the smallest and most arcane details of the show and the universe it depicted.

Around the mid-1980s the writers on the comedy program Saturday Night Live (SNL) invited William Shatner, Captain James T. Kirk himself, to poke a little fun at this ardent fan behavior. The video quality of this clip is poor and unfortunately incomplete, but you can see a hint of the humor: Shatner on SNL

What made this little skit infamous, however, is how vigorously Shatner was criticized as the fans thought he was directly attacking them. Wow…perhaps I am being judgmental, but if you can’t occasionally laugh at yourself then maybe you need lighten up a bit.   

“So?” you might say. It is not my business what hobbies people have and how they spend their free time. True, it should not be my business and in fact, fans and serious hobbyists often help us understand 1001 things. Just tune into YouTube to see great examples of not only their passion and dedication, but also their admirable willingness to teach us that which we do not know. I hope you understand that I am trying to be very careful here with my criticisms.

my three specific areas of concern
about fandom

Loneliness

My first concern is that I believe excessive Fandom might stem from loneliness. In 2000 Dr. Robert Putnam published the book Bowling Alone in which he foresaw the emptiness that was creeping into American life as many of us no longer participated in group events. Written at the cusp of the internet age, Putnam was concerned what effect this deepening isolation would eventually have on our society. Now, 25 years later and with so many of us leading lives online and investing ourselves in those we don’t really know, we can sadly see the results of the lack of personal interaction.

Incivility

My second worry stems from the serious levels of incivility that Fandom can generate. While it would be a stretch to argue that Fandom is the cause of incivility, it certainly can amplify it. Let me use a long story of the Beatles as an example: 

During the Covid-19 crisis I listened to countless podcasts—a good number that were about the Beatles. I find the Beatles fascinating and I enjoyed how certain podcasters turned a phrase and offered insights in discussing them. I soon discovered that I was more interested in the cultural history of the Beatles phenomenon and the world events surrounding it than I ever was in the music itself—as outstanding as it is.  

As questions arose, I would naïvely plunge into the online discussions that accompanied these programs. Little did I know that I was stepping into an area strewn with landmines. (See Note 2 for exceptions) 

While the Beatles are indeed important, I quickly realized how defensive people are about their “chosen” favorite Beatle and the history of the fab Four. There is, apparently, no detail too small in the Beatles’ legacy that is not ripe for heated arguments nor is there a limit to the emotional investiture that fans put into the group—a group, by the way, that broke up in 1970. The fervor of these fans and how prickly some of them are was at first an odd surprise…then it became disconcerting.

In the Beatles world you are apparently either a Paul McCartney or a John Lennon loyalist and you pitch your tent with the appropriate army from where you can argue until eternity which of the two Liverpudlians was more indispensable to the success of the group. Excuse my childlike innocence in thinking that it could have been both of them working as a team… And let’s not even go into the topic of Yoko Ono where you will find another universe of nastiness from fans.

As a quick aside, Matt Williams, on his first-rate Pop Goes the ‘60s YouTube channel, keeps a keen eye open for the irrationality that sprouts up in Fandom. While I encourage you to watch the entire episode, the segment from the 5th to the 13th minute offers an excellent example of this peculiar strain of Fandom that seems to be, simultaneously, both fawning and insincere. You can see it here: Matt Williams on Beatle Fandom

I use the Beatles as an example and I don’t mean to be unfair to those who cherish the group, but walking into this level of Fandom was a radical experience in witnessing how we can lose our capability to separate the art from the artist and, in turn, the artist from the real world. Some of these Beatles’ fans do everyone a disservice when they become angry and hostile in defending their celebrity heroes. At that point, are these partisans even themselves any longer? 

I can no longer count the number of tongue-lashings that I have endured in the comments sections of various sites for asking probing questions. For example, I was curious about the Beatles’ formative months that they spent, in the early 1960s, playing in the seedy clubs on the Reeperbahn in Hamburg, Germany. This is when they started to really gel as a group and hone their distinctive sound. According to legend, the Beatles were nearly superhuman in their work—sometimes laboring away for as many as an astonishing ten hours a day over the course of a couple of months!

When my naïveté got the better of me, I dared ask the Beatles’ fans if these hours were really all that punishing. They were, after all, young men of 20 and they were obviously enjoying playing for an audience. One should be able to safely assume that they were having the time of their lives.  

Many of the fan responses were swift, vicious and frequently potty-mouthed invectives with no real clear explanation other than that since I am not a musician, I am therefore woefully incapable of understanding the pressures of playing night after night for three months in a seedy bar. Incapable? Incapable of understanding that young ambitious individuals undertook long hours in pursuit of their dreams by doing what they loved to do? Unfathomable isn’t it that people work hard?

Power imbalances in relationships

My third problem with modern Fandom regards the power imbalance between fans and their idols. I find it unsettling that society has made great efforts in recent years to iron out certain power imbalances, yet men and women willingly toss aside those hard-won gains in order to worship a celebrity idol—who is, of course, a fallible human. Sadly, when taken too far this behavior chips away at the fabric of genuine relationships—relationships that are crucial in healthy personal and societal lives.

Allow me to offer an example from a field other than music. The actor Neil Patrick Harris starred in the late ‘80s and early ‘90s television series Doogie Howser. Harris played a character who, as a mere teenager, finishes medical school. In real life Harris was only fifteen when the filming started and twenty when it finished. While he was perhaps too old to be called a true child actor, he was still very young. That tender age did not stop a great number of women, however, from sending him fan mail in which they expressed a desire to marry him. Wow…they had never met him other than through the television screen and yet they wished to marry him.

Then there is the case of a true child actor Fred Savage from the original Wonder Years. He was of elementary school age when he stared in a television series and, most bizarrely, he too was receiving “advanced” marriage proposals for when he got older. 

In an even more prurient and bizarre example, there are the thousands, yes thousands, of fans who took the side of either Johnny Depp or his ex-wife Amber Heard in their recent sordid, and very public, court battles. Did any of these fans ever spend a day with Johnny or Amber? Were they close friends with them? Maybe they grew up and went to school with them? Doubtful. Most likely their only interaction with them was through film and interviews.

I know that I as a male have to tread carefully with the following remarks, but there is another, and darker, aspect of Fandom that is downright unsettling. We all know the seriously unwise things men have done regarding women, but I am shocked at the willingness of women to openly gush when it comes to the admiration of their idols—they comment on everything from their hair to their smiles and everything in between and how much even long dead musicians remain the love of their lives.

I could see this as just innocent fun if these women were back in 8th grade history class and had a crush on the boy sitting next to them, but in a world in which women are constantly vulnerable to any number of malign and dangerous men, they seem to ignore some pretty clear warning signs—and even when some of their idols have, or had, a reputation of violence against women. I ask you to think about that for a moment. If I as an older male can see the bright-red blinking warning signs, then they must be pretty clear.

To the credit of various celebrities, many of them have pushed back against this unhealthy social construct as they feel increasingly uncomfortable in their perceived roles. The great jazz musician Miles Davis, for example, even went so far as to turn his back to the audience when he thought that the fans were putting him above his art.  

Other artists express their discomfort with these power imbalances by limiting their interviews, pulling back from a public life, and avoiding the spotlight when possible. They argue that what they do is transactional. They write a book, give a concert, or star in a film and the audience pays for that. While the audience deserve the artist’s best effort, the artists contend, rightfully in my opinion, that the relationship should stop there. Can you blame them for the revulsion they feel against fans who are overly deferential, slavish, and servile? 

What then can bring Fandom back to reality?

As a ray of hope to help guide us back into the realm of reality and civility, I look to the 1970s American professional baseball player Bill “Spaceman” Lee. Bill Lee was an eccentric. Part athlete, part poet, and part philosopher he served as a counterculture figure in the relatively conservative world of major league baseball.

Being an eccentric however, does not mean that he was a fool—far from it. He had, after all, reached the pinnacle of his sport so even though much of what he said was humorous, he could also be intelligent and serious.

You can rightfully disagree with Bill Lee on many topics, but already in the early 1990s he was warning that Fandom was making fans far too passive and he encouraged them, to not just watch games and memorize statistics, but rather to get out and in any way possible participate in the game. Lee recognized that even the humblest level of involvement would lead to a more rewarding fan experience. 

Most of us, obviously, will never be elites in our chosen field, yet there are hundreds of ways in which we can “get in the game” as Bill Lee phrased it. Take a guitar lesson, go to a local government meeting, help coach a kid’s sports league, teach someone to read, or even set up the chairs for a concert. These might seem unglamorous, but they offer a rich storehouse of insights. The world looks different at the nuts-and-bolts level, and as Teddy Roosevelt said over 100 years ago, it is best when we climb into the arena and give things a try rather than watching it all from the outside.  

A last thought

Over the years I have come to the conclusion that it is good and normal that we admire individuals for what they can do—how they move us in song, how they bedazzle us on the athletic field, how they bring us technological innovation, how they lead us in military battles, and how contribute to a better society. It is fitting that we acknowledge their accomplishments for not only have they changed our lives, but they have inspired us to be better in so many ways. 

But when it comes to our daily human interactions, don’t we really choose our closest friends for who they are rather than what they can do? Don’t we learn the good, the bad and the ugly of our friends yet still appreciate who they are?  Fandom glosses over this—much to its disadvantage. Be dazzled and impressed on occasion with the great and the good of this world, but remember we are happiest and most comfortable with the persons we know and love. 

Stay old at heart!

Notes:

  1. I use the word Fandom here very loosely as I realize it can mean many things to many people. Some argue that Fandom is a merely a more devoted subset of general fans. With this in mind, in this article I use it to describe fans who are far keener and more emotionally invested in their objects of affection than the average punter. I don’t want to portray all of Fandom as rabid as that is both inaccurate and grossly unfair. I guess creepy Fandom is like sex appeal in that you recognize it when you see it.

2. I recently came across two two outstanding Beatles podcasts—both of which are absolute gems of polished production skills, intelligent content, and deeper historical research. The first, They Came to a Land Down Under, originates from Australia and is an extended look at the Beatles 1964 tour to Oz and New Zealand. The hosts provide a robust context of Antipodal Australia (at least somewhat antipodal from where I am) in the early 1960s. It opened up a new world to me and is exactly how a topic such as the Beatles should be treated. I assure you that this is really good listening and learning!

3. The second podcast I enjoyed in July 2024 originates in London and is entitled There’s a Place. I have provided the link to the YouTube site but all four of the full episodes are out on your favorite podcast platform. After having bemoaned the level of details that Beatles fans get into, I was pleasantly surprised when this series addressed the living quarters of the Beatles’ manager Brian Epstein. It is deftly produced and is what I wish so many more podcasts would be these days. You can see that the podcasts I enjoy are the ones that give a fuller context to history rather just opinions.

    4 Comments

    1. Claudine

      Well written, thoughtful essay. Thanks!

      Reply
    2. Fitz

      Neal – good show old boy! 🙂 I enjoyed your take on fandom and, especially, the three criticisms. Most insightful.

      It occurs to me that it might be an interesting topic to dissect from its opposite: stardom. My default approach to many “isms” (fan-ism, star-ism, for these purposes) is that each ism exists on a spectrum across which those involved in the ism are distributed. I suspect the distributions are weighted toward the less rabid in each case.

      I am thrilled with the notional celebrity who believes they are in a transactional business. Miles Davis, whom you mentioned, seems to have been the ultimate artist when he refused to allow his persona to detract from his art. His music endures, which I believe is evidence of his having been God-gifted with talent. (Gifted, yes – but to your point about Hamburg, doubtless it was gifted coupled with incalculable hours of delightful work!)

      I wonder, however, what portion of those whom we refer to as celebrities would agree they are in a transactional business; a concert in exchange for the price of a ticket and perhaps a t-shirt or what not. I would submit that at the national/international scale these are rare. My evidence? At these levels the performer(s) seem to me to want more than their end of the transaction; they appear to want our allegiance.

      Cases in point include Bono and human rights, Kid Rock and US politics, Roger Waters and international relations, various country music stars and hooray-for-our-side-anthems. (My cases reveal my age, do they not?)

      My point being that these “stars” for lack of a better term, have something that you and I lack. Their access to some form of the bully pulpit means, as I see it, that I may wind up paying to witness not their talent but rather their opinion on things wildly unrelated to why I am witnessing the product of their art. Ergo, I feel that these cases I have mentioned, and others, have abandoned the transactional model of their art and have converted it to one of influence.

      And this brings us back to Fandom. You mentioned adult fans. Let’s call “adultism” a spectrum. You and I are well into this spectrum with age-imposed lessons from which to learn. But there are some on this spectrum that are adult in age only. Are these fans being “responsible” in paying for the influence dished out by the objects of their fanaticism?

      Thus, I wonder if fandom and stardom is perhaps a symbiotic relationship of some kind that goes deeper than the very logical transactional relationship. And I wonder what psychological needs are being met in sometimes bizarre ways by the intricacies of the dynamic.

      I love your piece as written. As I am certain you surmise, I feel you may have cracked the door on a much larger question!

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    3. Catriona Lovett

      Great observations! You’re right to be concerned and I agree with your summary of possible causes. I appreciate that you’ve tried to be sensitive.

      I like how you fit Bill Lee’s advice to this topic. Yes, whether it’s music, sports, or any other hobby or activity, people of all ages need to get out of their comfort zones and challenge themselves to become active in their own lives. That’s one thing that will help.

      There’s a lot of darkness out there. The picture from Beatlemania with the crowd of girls pressing against the policemen has now become people being crushed or worse at concerts. People have less inhibition about harming others with their words or even violence and have poor awareness of their own potential danger. And the things people say…?!

      I am so glad that I’m only watching a livestream instead of being a creator on the other side of the screen. I’ve been around a block or two, and I am still shocked at commenters sometimes. I’m happy when I know that creators keep their private lives out of the spotlight. There are a few I’m concerned about because of the hatefulness they’re experiencing.

      I have to hope that spreading kindness can make a difference. I suspect it’s the only thing that can, sometimes.

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      • NealSchier

        Thank you Catriona for the good words. I am encouraged to discover, through Fil’s WOP Facebook page and comments such as yours, that there are others out there who are concerned about the level of vitriol and danger in areas of Fandom. It is not just a feeling–things have become quite shocking. To think, these are all dangers that have cropped up in an areas of life that are supposed to be enjoyable, rewarding pastimes, and the like.

        What is sad/lamentable about that is that a good spirited debate, the voicing of opinions, and the sharing of insights can be such an enjoyable experience. George Orwell is said to have once remarked: “I am more often interested in how you think than what you think.” We don’t have to all agree and the world would be artistically and intellectually poorer if we did, but kindness and respect should never go out of style. I agree with you–it very well might be the only thing that can make a difference so let’s not give up!

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